All posts by Ssbob90

For me its because there is still potential.

I have this hope that someday this mod can be revived and this wiki can be a template.

There are still areas it can expand

And because I hope to one day make, or get someone, to make this game based off this wiki

Yeah, I get that. I'm looking through this as the ship of Theseus, where we use new material to rebuild a ship based off the old design plans, and while visually it looks the same the parts that made it is completely different from the original. In the end, we might not have made it in the original creator's vision but we can get close to it. Of course, if we can find full articles or even get a chance to discuss with the original creator is even better, but knowing the time passed we'll be lucky to even find a blurb.

Admittingly. It's less of us restoring echoes production and more of making something new from the ruins, based off the old and built to be as close as the original but still different.

And I'm thinking of just focusing on Echoes first, with Quantum and the rest put on the backburner or, depending on everyone's opinion, not even updating it.

Maybe it could be based on a special crystal meteor that landed somewhere, like say the river tiber, in ancient times, which the cult managed to get and research with their limited knowledge. Though it took the Allies making the first spectrum weapon before the Cult could actually use the crystal.

Would them using a crude copy of the Atomic Chinese radio technology, due to the help of the Blue Chinese, work? And what other units can use the particle beam, outside of it being the Avenger heroic upgrade.

That could work.

I would also like to specify that I am fine if the submarine ability is an underwater torpedo attack, like the Akula, with a long cooldown. Plus that would fit with their guerilla-style hit and run. But it'll likely have to be a debuff instead of direct damage, since if it's direct then the sub can easily take potshots without fear of retaliation.

I guess I should have clarified as sane enough to not look obviously mad.

Looking at it now. I think it makes sense why the God route won't have NK reinforcements. In the Allies route they managed to convince the NK to send in their forces to help them, as otherwise, they would only send in supplies. Because why would the NK want to send their own men and women, proud soldiers of their nation tasked with defending their homeland especially with the rise of the Atomic Chinese, to fight and die for what are lunatics, and refuse to send reinforcements to the insane Red Chinese since they see it as wasting the lives of their soldiers, who would most likely be eaten by their "allies".

And in the Gods route their reinforcements comes from the other cults within China, who would have refused to help the sane Chinese since they won't follow their religion/the sane want a presentable image. Who brings in equipment from the Civil War, there can even be cults dedicated to manufacturing explaining why these cults can make vehicles.

Ok. So maybe those who worship the Pit as a god don't want outsiders to directly help them, seeing them as "impure heathens", with the NK sending in supplies instead of reinforcements for them. Besides, doing that is a win since their men and women won't die for an army of lunatics.

I would like that too. But the god side getting new reinforcements, as a foil the NK in the Allies route, is depending on the consensus here.

I think in the God route the Red Chinese doesn'st get the NK because they're too busy worshipping their new god to call them, and maybe because they think outside reinforcements are impure, and even if they did they'll likely kill and feed them to their god, or just eat them. Not to mention that the NK could be repulsed by their grotesque rituals

Depends on opinions.

No. Both choices get a total of 6, or 4 or 5, protocols total.

I was thinking they would be additional protocols, to join with the other 3

Yes, I get the point of minor faction navy being bare bones. But if it actively hampers a faction, like say the GLA being forced to buy the hoverdrive upgrade in order to move their vehicles across water since none of their transports are amphibious, and/or give another minor faction an unfair advantage over another in water-based maps, like the Reservist airforce against the land-based PLA, then I think it would bring down MFDM. Again, I'm not saying to give the minor factions an armada, but some of them should at least have an almost 2 to 3 naval units at most, and I would prefer the maximum be 3 unless necessary. And, again, I'm fine with some factions, like the Reservist, not having more than one watercraft, as long as they have ways to compensate for it like the Reservist airforce and flying transports.

If it is then I'm fine with them only having one vessel. If it not, and there are maps with enough water to rival the skirmish maps, then there will be a problem with them only having one vessel, as naval battles become boring, predictable swarms of the same unit. And even worst if there are archipelagos maps since not all of them have units to transport their non-amphibious units across the sea.

The main issue I have with the sub using torpedoes is that none, or a few at best, of the MFDM watercraft have no depth charge or torpedoes, aka submarine counters. So if the submarine can attack underwater its practiacally invincible.